The first shot from a MZ is basically the same as a 45-70 load if you load your rifle properly. And you know how far the Buffalo hunter's shot the 45-70!!

The problem is not the capability of the rifle. It is the ethics of the hunter, and the shooting ability of the hunter. Long range hunting is alot of fun, but you have to put in your trigger time at the range.

Ethics comes in to play when you consider time of flight. Remember when you shoot a bullet around 1600-2000 fps-the sound get's there way before the bullet gets there. when I shoot my 45-70 at chunk rock at 400 yards, it is amazing how long it takes to hear the bullet impact the rock. I can lift my head off the stock, take a breath, then watch the smoke come off the rock. Tom.