John, I hear you. If everyone stopped taking extra does, it would obviously get worse population wise, butnot as much buck to doe ratio wise. Nature works there as well. Natures way is 50/50 when it comes to male/female born fawns. The bigger problem is overall population....and carrying capacity. I agree, some states are good, some suck. The other thing I think we are running into is LESS hunters overall, which means more of us have to do the same job. I hear ya though...I've pretty much only shot does for the last 10 yrs (except a handful of decent bucks) and it doesn't seem to change a whole lot where I am.