You are right on the senko's Josh. One thing for sure, when we are fishing hard water in the weedy shallow bays for bluegills and crappie we often can't keep the largies off the lures. On a bad day you might be bothered with between 10 and 25 bass and some pike all in shallow 6' water with 4 pound test and a short ice rod. This many times results in an initial run that breaks you off. The lures are usually small #10 or #12 rockers or demons like pictured in a variety of colors and tipped with a waxy or spike (maggot). I catch some of my largest bass of the year by accident through the ice. Lots of fun but not the intended target.