I'd say the areas I hunt are like night and day yet both are in Illinois. Down south in the Shawnee National Forest where I hunt in Hardin Co. (12mi from KY) I'd say 140-150 is a top end buck. There is just too much big forest and not as much agriculture to consistently produce monster bucks. Sure I bet a few 160 and up have been taken but 140-150 is top end for that area based on what I've seen over the years.

Up north where I hunt (Will & Cook) I've seen some very nice bucks and I'd guess a top end buck for the areas I hunt inwould bein the 170+ range. Lots ofagriculture with just the right amount of forest and in the case of Cook Co. very little hunting pressure as most of it is Forest Preserve that you can't hunt.[:@]

If someone killed a 170+ deer in Hardin Co. folks would be in awe, if a 170+ were killed up here I don't think it would surprise too many people.