The problem when walking is if I use the seat I leave it down so I don' t have to unbucke the vest to get it down. Getting it down is a lot less hassle than getting it back up. Used to have a 10 X vest with a soft seat that I just left down and you didn' t know it was there. Someone stole it and I couldn' t find another one. I went with the bucklick creek to replace it. I don' t dislike the vest and I' m not trying to bash the product, just think the seat is unhandy. I was going to pull the support rods out of it this year but found another vest to try. Ordered the beard buster from huntsmart.com.