Since the topic is P&Y, I'd like to see where some of these are coming from? I lived in Portage and now East of Lansing in MI for ~9 years total and I have seen maybe one spotting near a farm that raises deer. My guess is that he was let loose to hunt or escaped because the cover is just not here for them to go past 2.5 yrs. I grew up just South of Pittsburgh PA and never saw one in the woods but the new rules over the past 5 years have produced larger bucks, but the doe population is hurting bad. My dad took a 154 gross this past season so he has the potential especially since he has the time. What states/general locations are producing?