Yeah I was pretty shocked when they opened the box so I could look atthe rifleand it had the rings, bases, even swivels! Alright you have a valid point on why cut corners on the scope. My last 3 scopes have been 2 Vari-XIII and a Vari-XII. Have not owned a VX model and nothing in the Conquest line yet. NowI'm leaning towards a VXII 3-9x40(comforting) or a Conquest 3-9x40(something different). Which one between these two? I'm not really familiar with the Zeiss.I've had guys tell me the Conquest isn'tmuch better than a VXII, at least not $100 worth better. On the other hand I've been told for $70 more the VXIII is a much better scope/value. Everyone seems like they really like theirConquests though, any feedback?