RE: martin vision
Actually I prefer a " hybrid" (deflex/reflex, locator grip) very much over a Hill style, but some go too far for my liking. I owned a Navajo that was in the same category (to me) as the Vision, except the Navajo was a take-down. A 21st Century I had (forget which model) was also just too radical. They are fast, great shooters, and classified as a longbow in most of the shoots I go to, but if I were to go that far with it I' d go ahead and shoot a recurve--they just don' t have a longbow feel in my hand. Of course that is just me[&:]--shoot what works for you.
Chad