Our local Bowtech dealer is shooting a D/C Patriot at 60#,28" draw length and a 308 grain arrow at 304fps with a string loop,and peep sight and the " Hush Kits" Another guy bought a 70#D/C Patroit and is shooting 318 fps at 29" draw length with a 350 grain arrow,and peep sight but off the string,no loop.