After reading what you guys/gals are saying, your right, it is always me that puts a stop to the bad behavior. I was telling my wife that there is a difference between being forceful and being abusive. She just can' t let it slide when the behavior happens. I try to not let him get away with squat, in the house or out, and he responds very well. He doesn' t range out on me, always comes to my side, doesn' t retrieve to hand but very close and drops it. He gets amped up when a shotgun goes off. She is gonna get involved in the daily routines, feedings, having the dog see her fill his water bowl. We' ll make sure that it' s her, that stops whatever he' s doing that' s bad. Of course since I posted my question he' s been pretty relaxed. What can I say. Fishface..........