Well the first year I had to drive almost 2 hours with no luck whatsoever....last year I had an hour drive to some private bush, 25 acres, I was able to get permission to hunt with 2 birds falling to the 870 pump gun..this year I was able to secured 50 acres of private bush about 20 minutes from home but do to the excessive amount of snow we have, i' mve been unable to scout the property....regardless, if that bush dosen' t work out I still have the one an hour away!!!!! ONLY 47 MORE DAYS TO GO!!!!!!!!!! Brampton Mike [8D]