Iam shooting beman 400 clasics w/125 grn.....50# @ 28"........Kudu Take Down Recurve......Iam useing a rest with these arrows,just cant seem to get them to fly off the shelf,put a cheep plasic rest on and problem solved,I think I am going to put one of my old flippers on it with the button....

Havnt tried them with the Martin Hunter due to the fact Iam shooting ceders and they fly fine.....Still working on getting the Longbow tuned............Might try the clasics or 2219/2316's maybe......