Skeeter..you are correct.The larger bucks with a good rack will rub at a higher level than a spike or fork horn. The rub will be on a sturdy tree and some times go within a foot of the ground. When can see individual tine marks on a four inch diameter tree I know this is a nice big deer, and start to look for other sign in the area to see if I can pattern him. Sometimes they will fool you. One year I thought I had a big buck only to have it turn out to be a middlin' sized 6 point.Put him in the freezer anyway! This years turned out to be a nice sized deer with a tiny 8 point rack, not an old deer either, healthy too, just a very small rack. Walked right up to my stand, so I did the right thing...put him in my freezer.