Bowhuntn1...there is no finer stand or more comfortable stand made then the original tree lounge. only gripe I have with them is weight ..your viper is not even on the same planet say what you want...My brother owns a revolution and it is not on the same planet as an old TL either and that is their top of the line...TL went a little overboard on the new stand and didn' t get some stuff right but I am sure in time it will be fixed...meanwhile I have the old one(s) to use and will continue to do so until I can find something better...nothing in the Summit line is worth wasting my time or money.