It just seems to me that gowing the deer big is taking alot of the suspense out of the equation... If you have a good size property you know you are going to see a big buck.. Sort of like Texas.. most of those premier hunting outfitters offer hunts on a size bases, like you pay 3000.00 for upto a 140", 4000.00 up to a 150" and 6500.00 for a 170" and they usually guarantee opportunity in 3 days... Yes they are fair chase but it is not realistic... I am not knockingit, and if thats you thing thats great.. But thats not for me.. to me a 170" deer is a deer of a lifetime.. I have taken 150's, 160's, and a 185" and I worked my ass off for all of them.. Deer to most of these places are a crop, and they are most likely the biggest cash crop.. I like a deer that got that big on his own.