I' m in agreement with VAhunter. And don' t take me wrong ,I' m not mad or anything I just feel like we have hit a wall as to what we think success is !

If the real question is about landing P &Y or better class deer than that might be a new thread?

And I love this.....ever since I have moved up here I have no one to shoot with or talk to about bowhunting . Todd thanks for the offer , but I have more than I can even get to now that I' m up here in SC. And you must not have read my posts, walking[8D] I usually take a jon boat in freezing weather for about 30 minutes,before daylight, and walk in about 500 yards, get one and drag it out about 500-600 yards. I may need to check into a cart ?The 210 # one about killed me !