RE: ultimate ML
"I still would not shoot it much over 200 yardsas that is more than far enough for game with a MLer."
Same here. A few times i havemadeclean shots to nearly 200 yards: Will only do this under the very best wind and light conditions with the deer or hog in a broadside orquartering away position. Have passed uplots of longer shotsbecausesomething just did not feel right.