Thank greg, but not right now, shot placement is my next step. I got some I am going to work on, including some conicals. only thing I am going to change this year with my load is, that I am going to an 45 cal 240gr xtp with mag express, I found 5 in my ML box, it is what I started working with. only reason I switched was that everyone ran out of them. I am/was using .430 240gr xtp with mmp green sabot.