well, I did a little digging around, nothing to indepth though

I didlook around ebay and found a few models that are close to what I have, most on there were "jena" models, which are plainly marked on the binoculars, mine appear to have the same design but arent nearly as long, kind of like their a compact model of the jena and have a different label and no strap hooks
I also found the "zeiss historical society" and dug up a little information, it appears that zeiss went through some drastic, and troubled,timesthroughout its history, the label on mine looks like this





which is completely different than the "jena" models it resembles




and it has this info along with it...

"In 1945, the upper echelon of the Carl Zeiss Jena scientists and their most senior management were taken from Jena by the US Army to the small town of Heidenheim in what would be West Germany. After a year of having no manufacturing resources and their managers sent to England for denazification, the company began to reform itself in the non-Russian zones of occupation from scratch. They applied their knowledge to totally new products since they had no established product line. These resultant products were years ahead of the industry. They reestablished the old products of microscopes, binoculars, planetariums among others and became profitable by 1954.

collectibles: Microscopes, Scientific Instruments, Cameras, Photographic Lenses, Astronomical Instruments, Optical and Medical Devices"

they also have "made in germany" and a 6 digit number on them but thats itasfar asID marks


theres a list of serial#'s on that site but its kind of hard to follow and understand and I never did find mine, most of the jena models I found on ebay seem to have an asking price of about $200 and all the ones I seen listed were in alot worse shape than mine, I'm think I'm going to contact that historical societyand see exactly what the deal is with them, thats probablythe easiest and bestway of finding out





Saftey Off- yes,the image is great, after I cleaned all the grime off anyway... they have been dropped at some point because theres a small dent in each of the retaining ring on the objective lenes, but it doesnt appear to have effected them in any way and theres no scrathces or any other defect at all



my guess is that they're probably worth what the other ebay models are going for, around $200-$300, not bad for something I basically dug out of the garbage... I'm keeping them anyway, they're older and not as fancy looking as my other ones but even for their age you can really tell the quality of the optics looking through them, and they're kind of growing on me... I said before I had no interest in using them "in field" but nowthat I've messedwith them someI can see myselfusing them quite often...