This is going to get interesting. 10 pt's new recurves take 350 gr arrows,their compounds need 430 gr or so. When the 10 pt speed freaks try the 350's in the compounds, Duck!! I was looking forward to the 10 pt recurves, but I already got a Phoenix and know what it will do. Even though this is the time of year for hype and spin, I am somewhat disgusted by a post on another forum how a 34" wide bow can be 3"-4" narrower than the "competition" which is only 36" wide. I don't like getting bs'ed.