I hunt with this guy that has never killed a turkey. He has been chasing gobblers for about 15 years. Anyhow one day he was riding down a dirt road and sees this gobbler cross the road ahead of him. He slows down and pulls his truck in a pull off, gets out with his gun and walks up the road were he seen the gobbler cross. He hears the bird scratching in the leaves just over a little bank. He sneaks up flushes the bird and blast him out of the air. The bird was a 22lb 11" beard and 1 1/4" spurs, a real limb hanger. Every time turkey season comes around and we get on the subject of who killed what he always tell the strory about his boss gobbler but always leaves out the part about how he ponked his bird off the road. This guy wouldn' t make a pimple on a turkey hunters a!@!!!! So as far as i' m concerned you arent much of a turkey hunter if you have to resort to that to get a turkey!!!!! If you need a bird that bad it would be cheaper to go to giant and buy yourself a butter ball...