I agree they are nice scopes... but I just bought Simmons pro diamond 4x32 shotgun scope and it has great optics thumbscrew adjustments, lifetime true zero full replacemnet warranty. If it ever goes out of zero from a scope issue they will replace. $68 Has optics comparable to the low end nikons. at 1/3 the cost. I'll admit I was hesitant at first, putting it onmy Omega. But it has been great. Good eye relief too. 4 1/2 -5". Just my .02

chris