Whow......my BS meter just broke on that lame comment. Anyhow, with the right sabot, powder, confidence, and practice guys are reaching out to150+ yards. I don't hunt in a area that offers me that long of a shot. Both my muzzleloader deer were shot at 20 yards and 80 yards this year. It's all about knowing your limits. With my load, a 300gr Barnes Expander MZ, 2 Pyrodex pellets, and Remington 209 primers I'm dead on at 100. Take your time, try different bullets/sabot combinations, different powder volumes, and work at it. I shot mine all summer long and got the best results with the above load. And just remember no 2 muzzleloaders regardless if they are even the same model will shoot the same.