RE: black cloud
My cousin loves it and loves telling everybody in the blind that he's using it. I'll admit that when he connects with it, it isabsolutely deadly. However, because of the tighter pattern (so he says)he does miss sometimes. He loaded my gun with them Saturday morning and when I went to shoot, the gun didn't fire. Turned out the BC shell was messed up. Primerhad been struckand all. I promptly replaced the BC shells with my Dry Loks back, which never misfire and knock ducks down as well as they always have.Try a box though, everyone but me seems to really like them. I hear they are really good for geese.