I honestly think things go in cycles.. Pa is losing more and more hunters every year... why?.. maybe time is an issue, maybe lack of deer?..I also hunt Maryland and I see it going the same way as PA soon.. the only trouble down there is that there are a lot of deer in neighborhoods like New Jersey and they seem to trickle back into the hunting areas every year, but it is getting worse... But there is one property that I hunt that is 300 acers and approx. 100 deer on it and the racks are bigger than any I seein pa all they have is some acorns and two grass fields to feed on... I think its a bunch of crap when people think there should be 1 deer 100 acers... for a healthy habitat. They are clueless. But the main reason I started this post was because of the state game land in Pa, not private land.. the state game lands are suffering. back to the cycles comment I believe once the hunter numbers get low enough the deer herd will make a comeback.. I don't think coyotes are impacting them enough to really make a difference.. or the private land guys would be hurting and they are not. At least the bunch I know and they have coyotes.