So what truth did you want to point out to nvshooter? Correct me if I'm mistaken as I know you will but it seems you were pushing your friends opinion on him about AR's not working here PA when that couldn't be farther from the truth. They are working.

Growing up in PA and with our numbers it's quite obvious to me that 2:1 would be what you come up with. Actually I'm surprised it's not more towards private however, that doesn't reflect the abundance of mature bucks that are now coming off those public lands. Your friends you visited don't share my opinion, that's fine, actually it's not my opinion, it's what I'm seeing, in newspapers, archery shops, taxidermy shops, messageboards etc...just go over to HuntingPA and see the success photos. They list many that are shot on public land and I'm impressed. Sorry your friends didn't do so well but that doesn't exactly reflect the truth.