For me they have been the best performing bullet I have shot in my Knight Revolution. I shoot the 240 gr. Dead Center with 80 gr. of 777.Easy loading , flattest shooting, best grouping bullet I have tried so far. I got my first deer with a muzzle loader using them. About a 110 yard shot went right down crawled maybe 10 yards & died. The next time I order them I want to trythem in my C.V.A. to see how they work in it.