we have to many does where i hunt so we shoot as many as we can. We have probably 25 does to every buck. The old barren does are the hardest to kill they are to smart. this year we put 5 stands in a 30 feet square section of woods so when the looked up they didn't know what tree we would be in. it helped a little but the old does caught on and looked at all the trees before coming through. We still shot 2 doe over 4.5 years old from that section.