i have the copper john Dead nuts. i love it, if your an ebay guy heres a link to what they have right now. i gota camo 5-pin for like $62 shipped, i dont think they make them anymore they started making the CJ dead nuts 2 and such, butthe originalis a great sight for the money, all metal construction, i happy with mine.

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=1&amp ;from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=+dead+nuts&a mp;sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=24333&sab fmts=1&saobfmts=insif&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&am p;saprclo=&saprchi=&fsop=1%26fsoo%3D1