I don' t ever recall stating anyone was " dumb" for anything. I belive you must have not read what I wrote, or perhaps I didn' t state it properly. Nevertheless, I don' t think anybody is dumb for whatever they choose. If someone wants to spend $15,000 on an Echols engraved custom rifle that' s great - I can afford them too but I dont feel that' s necessary (for my purposes).

My primary interest in rifles are Lever Actions and Milsurps - none of which shoot 1" groups. Sure they might shoot an occasional 1" group - but that' s the exception to the rule. I have several Milsurps that shoot pretty good (Enfield No 4 Mk1, a VKT M39, and believe it or not a 1944 Turk). Certainly none of my lever guns shoot that good either.

The " Georgians" over at HuntAmerica.Com have a 530 yard competetion every year. Last year about 25 of us went. Rifles ranged from bone stock Savages to Remington 40X rifles and my Turkish Mauser with Iron sights. I didn' t have any problem backing up my claims of accuracy with my Savages and my (gulp) Turkish Mauser. You are welcome to watch 3 of us that shoot Savage rifles " mop up" the friendly competetion. . There is a guy with a CZ Varmint that makes a really strong showing too.

I thoroughly enjoy shooting and shoot about 100 rounds of high powered rifles about 2 or 3 times a month. I am fortunate enough to have a club with concrete covered benches and a 300 yard range.

I get the most satisfaction out of making hits on plate sized targets at 300 yards with my milsurps. To me shooting timy groups with a bolt gun is, well pretty boring.

Killing a doe 2 years ago with a $50 Mauser was pretty cool.