I completely agree. They definately don't want to publish any handloading data before they start selling rifles. That is one reason I don't have a .204 ruger.

Who needs a rifle than only achieves its magic performance using factory ammo.

Big Country, I thing the RUM cartridges have a place, but it is a small niche. I think the short mags have a place, but again it is a small one.

In the end, guns don't wear out fast enough, so they need a different reason to sell guns. And I like buying guns. If I had more money I would buy more.

It just doesn't take many brains to realize that you run out of practical reasons to buy more guns pretty fast. Then you have to come up with unpractical reasons.

Another cartridge I wonder about is the new .17 rem fireball. It seems like the answer to a question that nobody asked. However, it does have some appeal if you were saving fur on small critters like fox. Not that there aren't a few choices to fit that bill already.

The point of this rambling post is, while the cartridges in question aren't needed (and probably aren't even wanted), there is no need to get too cynical either. What a boring place it would be if the only cartridges were the .222, .30-06, .375 H&H, and .458 Win.