RE: Observation on Long riser bows....
What was amazing to me was the speed the Bowtech produced w/ the total lack of handshock and noise.....I will be the first to admit that nearly all these bows shot very well and that I would put the Legacy and Patriot in a perfect tie with the VFT as far as handshock, noise, and " shootability" ....but the VFT was shooting a 350 grain arrow at 321 fps at 29" !!!! The Legacy setup the exact same (29" ....tied in nock) was doing 295 fps. The patriot 310. I was VERY impressed w/ the VFT!! I' m not a speed freak but I am a KE freak and I can see some serious energy out of this bow with a 500 gr. arrow.
PA,
Sorry man!! The Havoc isn' t going anywhere!! Love that little bow!