I bought a Winchester model 70 last year in 25 WSSM. I thought that it was a hot little round, but I am very, very impressed with this little bullet. I have taken 4 hogs, an axis deer, and a Red Deer with it and nothing has went further than 10 yards. My buddys son shot the first Whitetail with it and it dropped straight down. I am shooting winchesters 115gr ballistic tip. While I was really impressed, it was the 200 + lb boar hog that I shot a few nights ago that really got me. He went about 5-10 yards and that was it. I would recomend this round to anyone and especially kids. It has little to no recoil! A 25 on STERIODS!!!!