I use arctic shield bibs an a rivers west h2p jacket. My AS is a little noisy so thats why I use the Rivers West jacket with them...works pretty well for bow or gun hunting. However Sleeping Indian is on the horizon...I have looked into it and would love to have a set. As many years as I get out of my hunting clothes I dont mind payin premium if they will last. Now if I ever find something to keep my feet and hands warm Id never come out of the woods.