These deer are smart, I have a nice mature buck behind my house and a young wide, really wide deer. I hunt hard and can't get them to come in close, that is when I am lucky enough to even see them. What do you guys think of them, look at the spread on the wider one, good god almighty. I think the other might score 150 or 160. http://forums.huntinghole.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12