OK, so here is how I see it. The DNR says there are too many deer, been saying it for years. They let us take more deer and now the numbers are going down. What this is saying is that the way they are doing it is working. We have less deer, just what the DNR wants. So to the DNR, it's working. Is it hard to determine where they are and how many? You bet it is. Do you have a better way to determine where they are and how many? If you do, tell the DNR your thoughts, I'm sure they are willing to listen to logical answers. I still agree with ___Dan though. If we keep seeing a lot of deer getting hit by cars, the DNR will want to get rid of more deer. If we get a hard winter, we may see it really hit home and have low numbers, but stick it out, EAB will help it out. Let the yearlings walk, get away from the crowd, the deer are there