I allways use the excuse "I hunt public land, if there was mature bucks around I would hunt them" after looking at some of my logs from past seasons i figured out in 10 years of huntingI have seen 12 bucks that would be more than 3.5 years old, so I will no longer use that excuse...I guess I just really like to shoot bucks, and at this point a 2.5 year old is still a trophy for me....