All this talk of 36" being a long ATA is sort of silly, by thinking this,you're buying into the bow marketing campaigns. Guys that shoot a 60" recurvedon't have trouble in a tree stand. I hunt whitetails with a Mathews, Conquest 3 @41" ATA and have never had a problem with tree stand manuverability. I have a personal policy not to go shorter than 35" ATA.Balance is key with archery (hunting), nothing should be extreme--arrow not too light, poundage comfortable for your stengthlevel, and ATA in a forgiving range. You won't find manyguys who are really serious about acuracy shooting a toy bow with a 29-31" ATA. JMHO.

The earlierpost about the Bowtech birth certificates being accurate? I'm a fanatic about arrow speed out of a bow, not high speed as Ihunt withaluminum arrows but more sothings that affect arrow speed and arrow flight, string attachments of all sorts, even the type of realese you shoot affects speed. I've chronographed severalBowtech bows with a true IBOarrow for the rigand I've found that they are 10-30 fps slower than what's statedon the birth certificate. Granted, I have not donethis to a 2008 Bowtech so if it's changed when I chrono the new Airborne 101I'm getting I'll post the results.