GREG/MO Thank you very much for the reply. After my first back surgery I purchased the Diamond Black Ice and had it set on 50lbs. The bow I owned before it was a 60-70 bow so I knew I had to buy a new bow so I could draw it back without hurting myself. I can draw back the black ice with ease no problem (I actually shot it yesterday a few times) thats why I am interested in the 82nd and the 101st so I can get some more speed. Thats another thing that I have been wondering about these bows is how smooth the draw is. How does it compare to the black ice? I have never had the black ice chronoed do you have any idea what it shoots at 50lbs, from what I have heard it is probably around 270 or so. Thanks for what you said about my back as well it makes me feel good to know what someone I do not know would care like that. That is why I love the hunting community as a whole so much. On average they are just much nicer people. Thanks again for the replies folks.