Let's just say this, gun season stated a week ago, the rut is over, my wife kept reminding me we need more meat in the freezer, the big boys are now totally nocturnal and he looked bigger from the tree. Now that you know that he suffered a bit from ground shrink (short tined 7 point)and doesn't meet my normal requirements (mature and 8 points or better), go ahead Rick and post 'em.