Paul, what Im saying is the actual work that goes into hunting the deer is not there for the hunter. Yes, camera crew, production, the rancher all work very hard, and I enjoy watching bowhunting on tv, but I do know these guys hunt primo spots. That's great, I would too, but, given the chance and time, could they do it on their own? Maybe, maybe not. II still beleive that most of us on here are better hunters because we learn through trial and error and make it happen every year or maybe we don't, but we at least put in the effort. Where is the effort on the hunter's part in this deal? Yes, they do show up and shoot a deer that the rancher has been watching for weeks and knows every path and the time the deer usually shows up. I have friends that have done it and that is exactly what goes on. Not much of an accomplishment to me. But to each his own.