They're around i'm sure. In my woods we've got 4 different P@Y bucks ranging from 125" to 150" net bucks that we know of, reason being is wegot them on the cuddeback. Thisyear I shot a nice 8 pt.(136" to be exact) I never seen him on the camera.My brother hasseen 2 other P@Y's, neither were ever on camera.It just goes to show they are there but they are so hard to see even with the cameras out in the woods. We see alot of smaller bucks on the camera too, but don't see all of these while were hunting. They are there, there just not always where you or I are hunting all the time. Frustrating?Very much!!! Thats hunting though!