Vabowman, people like that outnumber hunters 100 to 1 around me. That is why I want to retire early after working my butt off and buy 100-200 acres of land with a nice little white farm house for my wife. I want to get away from them and be around good/solid people who live to encourage/respect others. We are living like crazed people these days, not slowing down in the fastest rat race that mankind has ever known.