I' m a little late getting in here as well, but I do want to comment. The only pop-scooter I' ll consider is a Honda. I' ve had two and both have been flawless. I now own a 450 Foreman S and I will probably keep it for the next 10 years or so. It has been through some really tough situations, mostly mud and water, and it just keeps on working. I' ve got a set of 27" Super Swamper Vampires on it and it just will not get stuck. I have drowned it out a couple of times in high water, but that was my fault for taking it in too deep.