Im with GMMATand Yooper Mike on this one. Ive only seen one shooter all year, and he was running as fast as he could to get across a field before I could get a shot. But on the same token,, a great friend of mine is a taxidermist in my area and has taken in the usual number of bucks this year, a little over 100, but has taken well over 10 bucks this year, that will score 160+, and usually only has 4-5 in that range. The really big bucks are getting taken this year by some guys, not me though.[:@]