Thanx for the kind words everyone. I am really happy with this buck. Also while skinning the deer out I found 2 22 slugs in him!!! 1 in his kneck the other in his lip line. Its amazing what these bucks have to go through these days. It has probably always been like this but it just seems more and more people are just driving around and taking pot shots at good bucks or deer in general. Hey PJ good luck to you and I hope your shoulder is healed!!!! Go get that big 12 you have pics of or save him for me if I ever make it down there to hunt. Doug