LOL thanks for the reply.... I think I need a bigger treat then, because he much rather have the ball than the treat. I want the fetch thing down so he has other exercise other than walking. I am working hard on the OB how you suggested to do it. He was doing really good with the sit and stay, then I had to go back to work (24 hour shift). I came home this morning and tried the sit / stay and its like he forgot every thing he did good on the day before.

I really never have seen a dog that doesnt know how to fetch the ball and then bring it back, its odd for me. But I will try to lure him back with a raw hide or something and see if that works.....

But yes I am focusing on OB, just want to give him some more exercise that would be fun for him / me.....

Again thanks for the advice!!!!!