Hoytail: Good topic. I think this thread has more to do with a hunters attitude than shot placement and one lungers. I started bowhunting for deer in 1962, so you can assume that I am fairly experienced. I look at myself as one of the best trackers I have ever known. In my younger years I have even been known to kill a buck running at 70 yards. My most leathal kill was a skip shot that hit the animals lower rear calf. He went 35 yards, stopped and licked it until he bled to death. I have been very lucky until year before last. Until then my attitude was "if I can draw blood I can find him". Well, my attitude has changed and this year I didn't even draw my bow once because the right shot didn't present itself. Three poor shots in a row has changed my life forever, even though chances are all three bucks survived. I hope your brother-in-law will see the light and change like I did.All hunters go throughchangesas they gain hunting experience. At first you kill anything that walks, then your a meat hunter and then someday we all hope that we attain the level of sportsmanship that only themature animals are harvested. Hopefully your BIL will progress to a higher level sportsmanship before he makes all the coyotes fat in your forest.