Okay. I found a 308 Short Trac Browning, bought it and killed two nice bucks with it. My buddy missed three in a row with his Remington 700 in 270. We tracked it to a Phillipines made Simmons Aetec Scope. He bought the Winchester from me last week while we were at a pit lining up his new Monarch. He took one look and bought it. He just killed a very nice 9 point this afternoon. The Winchester hit the deer exactly right but it jammed. He had loaded a shell in the chamber and inserted the clip with three shells in it. Maybe this is a bad thing to do? The clip will only hold three and the gun is advertised as a three shot.