Bigtimer
and you have usedthose 451's quite effectivly - I might add...
They certainly are not the modern fancy ballistic looking bullet that appeals to a lot of people - but it is awful hard to suggest they do for you from short yardage to 180 yards...
The truth is in the hunter.. .would you take that 180 yard shot again today with that 451 Nosler? Bet you would because you now that bullet will do just fine... You can add your professional opinion....